Electric Bromptons Compared: Brompton Electric, Swytch, Nano, & Velospeeder [VIDEO]
The Brompton is simply one of the best folding bikes in the world.
From being an idea conceived in a London flat by engineer and designer Andrew Ritchie back in 1975 it has become one of the world’s most popular folding bikes.
It’s success is based on the fact that not only does it fold quickly down to a very compact size of 60 x 59.5 x 28 cm (around 100 litres volume) but it is also an incredibly strong bike that rides pretty well too, given its small 16” wheels.
There are a number of electric options around, most notably Brompton’s own version.
As this was rolled out from 2017 there have been many other retrofit options developed in the preceding years and newer options like the Swytch, for the more budget conscious, continue to hit the market.
Here we take a look at four options we have tested first hand, all of which have their own pros and cons which we detail.
Brompton Electric
Brompton have developed their own high quality but pretty conventional solution.
A slim geared hub motor sits in the front wheel.
And a 312Wh battery easily slots onto the headset area in the space where a bag mounting block usually sits.
In place of the luggage mounting block the electric version has a small ‘black box’ that is part of the battery mount which acts as a kind of junction box for the hub motor and LED lighting wiring as well as housing the controller.
The battery features integral USB port for charging small devices on the go.
Pros
There’s lots to like about this design.
The battery removes very quickly at the push of a button, cleverly leaving you with two lighter items to carry rather than one heavier one (14.8kg for the six speed bike and 3.46kg for the small case that contains both battery and charger).
It looks a very smart design with the electric cabling very neatly routed and the front wheel easily removable in the event of punctures etc via a ‘screw and pull’ connector in the power feed cable.
LED lighting cable runs are similarly neat and tidy and come with an automatic setting.
Mudguards are included in the price and it’s available with two or six gears and a choice of two colours.
Compared to the other motors I tried it’s one of the most powerful out there and the real big plus is the bottom bracket-housed torque sensor that introduces the power as you step on the pedals.
Torque sensing is the system all the better quality e-bike motor systems use, so its mere presence is reassuring.
It avoids the haphazard feeling power delivery of more budget systems that use a simple crank motion detecting system.
Cons
The biggest downside is that the system can’t be retrofitted to any of the many thousands of Bromptons out there.
In use the biggest downside is the lack of a power control button on the handlebars, meaning you have to lean over the bars to change power levels and light settings – far from ideal.
It really begs out for a wireless handlebar control.
Another major drawback is that the system limits your luggage carrying options somewhat.
Note though there is a bag upgrade rated at 20 litres storage that gives some storage space either side of the battery but it still falls short of the 25 litre T bag that fits on non-electric Bromptons.
The option of a rear rack would increase luggage capacity but doesn’t seem to be offered by Brompton as an option, though again you can get non-electric versions fitted with one.
The power delivery did feel a little unpredictable compared to high quality mid-drives like Bosch however, with occasional unpredictable surges or dead spots, possibly due to the fact the torque sensor is only activated by pressure on the left hand pedal (better systems have both pedals activating the system).
Summary
The motor is the most powerful of all the models tested here and it has the biggest battery as a standard offering, though that comes at the expense of making it one of the heaviest and most expensive options.
£2595 – 2895 depending on gearing, colour and battery bag options
Swytch Brompton
Swytch were founded in 2017 but have very recently launched a Brompton specific retrofit kit with a lightweight handlebar mounted battery (our supplied prototype battery didn’t have a capacity rating but we believe the final production version will have a 180Wh capacity battery of the same physical size as this prototype).
The motor is a conventional geared hub motor but narrow enough to fit into a Brompton’s narrow 74mm front fork width without any fork stretching.
The whole kit adds some 3.4kg to the weight of an unassisted Brompton.
This gave a 14.81kg e-bike weight, composed of removable battery of 1.78kg and a very manageable ‘carrying weight’ of 13.03kg for the rest of the bike.
Our test bike was the B75 budget-priced (US$995 / £745) ‘limited edition’ Brompton very much in keeping with the competitive introduction price of the kit of US$650 / £499.
Swytch’s big selling point is the ease of conversion which involves three (hopefully) simple stages; swap over the tyre and inner tube from the bike you want to convert to the Brompton-sized Swytch hub-motored wheel supplied and fit it to the bike, clamp on the battery to the handlebars and the pedal sensor to the bottom bracket area, arrange, secure and connect the cables and away you pedal.
All the components are pretty standard budget e-bike budget components but put together in a nice clean design.
Our observations on the ‘quick and simple’ installation were that it is generally just so but you need to be aware of a couple of points.
The rims are Swytch’s own and not Brompton’s so you may need to do a little experimenting with which ETRTO 349 tyres fit most easily.
We also had to pay attention to the cable run (cable-tied in place) between the handlebar-mounted battery and the hub motor to ensure it doesn’t catch on the handlepost hinge release mechanism.
Pros
The riding experience is generally good, with a nice amount of power up hills and a decent top assisted speed of around 15mph on the Euro spec version we tried.
There is also a US spec with nominal 20mph max assisted speed though this has a larger 252Wh battery mounted on the luggage block and costs more.
We particularly liked the small and unobtrusive design of the pedal motion sensor which pushes into the left hand side of the bottom bracket recess (though this costs extra compared to the standard clunkier and more obvious looking standard issue sensor).
Cons
There is some noise that is perhaps a little more than you would expect.
Quoted range of 50km / 30miles looks rather optimistic to us as we achieved around 20 miles mainly on the flat riding in power level 4 out of 5 most of the time.
That’s about par for the course rather than being exceptional for a battery this size.
The fact the power is delivered by motion sensor rather than torque sensor means some inbuilt inefficiency and also means the power kicks in after a short delay rather than immediately you begin pedalling.
We also found that you have to route the power feed cable carefully.
Summary
Though not the most sophisticated in terms of power delivery, this is certainly one of the lightest front hub motor options out there and is also very cost-effective and pretty easy to retrofit.
US $650 or £499 (larger capacity 252Wh kit with 20mph assist limit available for US$750 / £599)
More detail here
Nano Brompton
The Nano retrofit kit from the eponymous UK firm is based around a small, light and rather ingenious front wheel hub motor produced by Chinese firm Tongxin.
The Brompton kit certainly merits the Nano epithet, because at 2.3kg it is one of the smallest, lightest motors available.
Although fitted with a conventional pattern sun-and planet gear system, the Tongxin is very unusual in employing friction rollers rather than gear cogs to transmit the drive.
The Nano is one of the few hubs that will fit into the narrow forks of the popular Brompton folding bike, as it comes in a narrow 80mm version, though forks will still need spreading a little (it’s therefore compatible only with steel, not titanium forks).
Nano supply a special tool to help widen the forks slightly and the fitted motor does not affect the folding ability of the Brompton.
There is also a retrofit service in the UK if you don’t fancy doing the task yourself (pricing link here).
A small controller velcros neatly onto the side of the frame.
The battery is housed in the front bag, with copper contacts making the connection with the motor once the bag is in place.
Battery choice is between 144Wh powertool batteries from Bosch or Oregon or a bigger 418Wh generic Chinese battery adapted to Nano’s unique ‘battery in the bag’ system. More detail on battery choice here.
Pros
The ‘battery in the bag’ is a brilliant bit of design.
It means that you can remove the Brompton bag (they come in a bewildering variety of sizes and designs) with the battery remaining inside and have two fairly easily carriable packages when the bike if folded.
And unlike Brompton’s own system you can utilise any Brompton bag you like, preserving the bike’s full carrying capacity.
What’s more it will retrofit to Bromptons with rear racks too.
The choice of large or small capacity batteries also means this is the most flexible system out there; we loved the fact the small batteries can be added to.
If you need to only undertake a short journey using a single battery the kit adds only a little more than 3kg to the overall weight of the bike.
Two of the smaller batteries can be taken on flights too, generally not possible with bigger batteries.
The other big plus is the offer of different power control systems, including a throttle controller (you still need to pedal to get the motor to work, but this option gives great control for stop-start type riding in busy traffic).
There is also a motion pedal assist system that means power kicks in on pedalling, perhaps more suited to longer tours where you don’t want to have a thumb on the throttle control for long periods.
There is also the option of full lighting powered by the e-bike battery. Again this can be fitted for you or by the customer (good bike DIY skills required here).
Performance wise there is loads of torque available up the hills.
Cons
A little more complex to fit than the Swytch and the top assisted speed lags a little behind other models due to the high torque gearing (on our particular model at least – you would have to enquire at Nano if differently geared versions are available giving more top speed at the expense of hill climbing ability, if that’s what you want).
Wiring runs are longer and more complex than other systems and possibly a little more prone to damage (though our long term test model has only suffered one fault, damage to the copper strips on the mounting block and these are easily replaced).
£750 and up
Available from www.nanoelectricbikes.co.uk
Velospeeder Brompton
Velogical is an ingenious German engineering firm which, after developing the highly efficient and tiny Velogical rim dynamo (see our review here), went on to apply the principles in reverse, so to speak, to develop the extremely lightweight Velospeeder e-assist rim drive system.
Whilst the original design has been around for a while, Velogical produced a Velospeeder kit version for the Brompton folding bike in 2017, made to fit only models with rear rack.
The company say the kit can be self-fitted by a careful and competent bike mechanic.
The Velospeeder Brompton kit features two small motors that are spring tensioned against the rear wheel rim, with a crank motion sensor kicking the motors into action on pedalling.
They’re powered by a small frame-mounted battery which sits on top of the Brompton frame in the angle with the seatpost.
There’s also a three-point switch on the handlebars (on / off / wet weather mode), which on my test bike came in the shape of a three-speed cable shifter, though the wet weather mode wasn’t enabled and so couldn’t be tested here.
Velogical say the motors are not meant to give mountain bike-style power, but more of a helping hand – the kit is claimed to add around 2kg in total weight, including the battery, making it the lightest retrofit kit available, the motor itself weighing only 500g or so.
As the kit came pre-fitted on the test Brompton we couldn’t weight the system independently.
The test bike came with a 95Wh battery, though bigger capacities are available. Estimated range of our version was around 10-15 miles.
Pros
Extremely lightweight and keeps the balance of the bike nicely too. Beautifully engineered.
Over moderately hilly countryside the kit gives a real boost to performance, especially once you reach around 8mph, though it should be noted we didn’t test it in really wet weather which can prove to be the Achilles heel of some friction drive kits.
Can be retracted from the rear wheel to give totally unassisted riding.
As the batteries used here are from the world of radio-controlled models and are consequently relatively cheap to replace, extra range with several extra batteries is an affordable option, and larger capacity options are available.
Available in different max speed assist options, 23, 28, and 35kmh.
Cons
Undoubtedly the system’s big weakness is the lack of raw climbing assist up very steep hills, but for places with only occasional steeper hills – such as London or Paris – this is a real performance booster with little extra weight penalty when compared to just about every other electric assist kit out there.
And as with any friction drive you may encounter problems in very wet weather.
There is some noise and it will be clear you’re on an electric assist bike.
Available here
So Which One?
It really is horses for courses as the saying goes.
Brompton’s Electric certainly comes out tops for sophistication of power delivery and hill climbing ability.
We think it has two major disadvantages over the two retrofit kits reviewed here (aside of the facts it cannot be retrofitted and it is therefore a going to be a relatively pricey option).
Firstly it limits the carrying capacity of the front bag mounting system and secondly it is very awkward to change power levels whilst riding.
The Nano is really the most flexible of the systems in terms of battery and power delivery options, though self-fitting is rather more complex than the easily-fitted Swytch.
It’s price is very competitive, especially if self fitted and it’s the only system here to offer a throttle – though you will need to pedal to activate it (ie no US spec is available).
The Swytch allies simplicity and a decent price with decent hub motor performance.
A lighting option would be a nice addition.
The bar mounted battery means a longer potentially more problematic front cable run and a slightly wider folded size than the standard Brompton.
The Velospeeder is very elegant and very, very light (especially with the smallest battery option) but lacks real power for tough hill climbing and the cost may deter many.
Stay tuned for more e-bike news and reviews and thanks for reading!
-Rich
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Lin B says
You missed a great option for Brompton (and other bikes). The OneMotor! Super light, easily adapted to any brompton, old or new, and removed in seconds for carrying. And you can fly with the batteries. onemotor.co.
Lin B says
You are welcome to come try mine, I’ve got it on my Bike Friday pakit. Total weight of bike and e-assist is 23.5 lbs. As a senior citizen, a little old lady, that’s a good weight for carrying up stairs to transit (you get tickets on Bart if you use the escalator). I love the easy on/off as I also pop it on my Dahon Mu Uno when I use my trailer to pick up stuff at Costco. There’s a special mount for Brommies, as the inventor rides a brompton. I’ve had mine since the start of summer and absolutely love it.
Mark says
If you do a follow up review you might want to consider the ARCC kit, pricey but well specified and flexible.
Chuck Ankeny says
Any reason you didn’t include the Grin Technologies system in your review?
Richard Peace says
Hi Chuck
I wasn’t aware of the Grin system so I couldn’t try it – I’ve tried out all the bikes included in this article. I’ll get in touch with Grin
to see if EBR can get hold of a test kit.
Thanks for reading and for taking the time to comment
Many thanks
Richard, EBR writer
Tony Firshman says
I had a Nano kit.
I use the largest Brompton bag (with frame removed) as an airline cabin bag. Sadly most of the kit broke, even the motor My copper strips on the front mount also broke. I replaced with much thicker copper. I bought two extra red batteries with a Bosch drill, giving a very cheap industrial drill!
I replaced the Nano with a kit (less batteries) for £230 from https://www.pedalease.co.uk/
This has front light and sophisticated LCD controller with speed and mileage etc. I have done 1,500 miles without issue.
Richard Peace says
Hi Tony
Sorry to hear of your experiences with Nano – as you say the copper strips can be prone to damage but at least they are replaceable. I can only say that I have two Nano kits and they have worked well over the last couple of years (one on the Brompton featured here and the other on a Dahon folder).
EBR will try for a review model of the Pedalease system so many thanks for letting us know about that one and thanks for taking the time to comment.
Richard, EBR writer
Tony Firshman says
The only Nano part that survived was the power controller. Even the supplied Bosch charger and battery failed. One bad thing about the Nano system is all external connectors are crimped. Also the spade connectors used in the battery connector, overheated, and melted plastic. I soIdered bare wires. I 3d printed a much neater battery connector.
I guess I did 9,000 miles in the three years it worked.
I use the pedalease with the (really excellent) Nano battery system. The Pedalease controller fits in the Nano bag. This system comes with std push-fit Jolet connectors.
Richard Peace says
I’m very surprised at the Bosch battery and charger failing. Thanks again for the feedback Tony. I will keep updating EBR readers on any more adventures on my Nano bikes as and when I undertake them.
Richard
Tony Firshman says
The battery was replaced under warranty. It gave a red light on the Bosch charger, even when cold. The replacement failed in the same way, but out of warranty. I managed to charge it with a third-party charger. It reached the std 42v, but had maybe only 60% capacity. I took it to bits and found two cells out of 20 totally short circuited. There are only 10 balancing wires, so charging is in pairs.
Looks like these units cannot take heavy loads.
Peter says
The stats for the weight of Brompton’s own e-bike seem quite a way off. The review quotes a 3 speed version that weighs 14.8kg and yet there isn’t such a beast. The 2 speed weighs 13.7kg, fully a kilo less. And the small bag with battery is quoted as 3.48kg, half a kilo above the usual figure quoted. Perhaps EBR assume you are also carrying a charger -, something I find I never do unless going on a whole day tour in the hills.
Both the Electric and the Nano benefit from batteries positioned low on the bike’s front fork; the Swytch’s battery, on the other hand, is attached to the handlebars which must surely make the bike less stable, particular if one opts for the larger battery?
I have indeed found it somewhat risky to change power settings on the move on the Electric. But the lights at least can be set to Auto and come on or go off depending on ambient light. Brompton say they will be releasing a Bluetooth control for battery settings ‘soon’!
Btw I ordered my Electric through a dealer who fitted a rack prior to delivery, Between the rack and the 20l front bag I find I have sufficient luggage load for a fortnight’s holiday.
Richard Peace says
Hi Peter
I have just checked my quoted weights with the same Park Tool scales – the bike without battery came in at just over 15kg but this includes a small towing hitch I fitted later to tow a Radical Design trailer, though I imagine it wouldn’t add more than a couple of hundred grams at most. The battery bag and charger were 3.47kg. So I think my quoted weights certainly are about right. However it was my mistake as it is a six speed – lack of careful proofing on my part there, now corrected.
Yes it would be great to try out a Bluetooth handlebar control unit.
Thanks for reading and for taking the time to comment
Richard, EBR writer
Peter says
Thanks Richard for your reply. , As different base models with different specs have been chosen a true comparison has been lost.. It looks from photos that the Electric was tested with the H bar which will have added a further 100g to the already weightier 6 speed gearing. The Swytch at 13.07kg is described as ‘very manageable’ for carrying (despite one needing three hands to carry battery, bike and luggage!). If you had tested the 2 speed Electric would you have described its 13.7kg in similar terms? . The Electric’s torque sensor gets some praise from the review but isn’t there a bigger point that, for systems without a torque sensor, bicycle deceleration may not result in the stopping of motor assist which in urban spaces could have disastrous consequences? I am left with the feeling that this reviewer set out from a position of disappointment with Brompton’s choice of a ‘conventional’ solution to electrifying their product, and was a tad miffed that none of his stable of Bromptons and various bags could benefit from their in-house fix.
For me, I’d never owned a Brompton before and I’m delighted with the versatility and range that I get from my Electric.
alfred offer says
in 2011 I purchased a freedom e bike kit from Andrew Hamilton out of Israel it has a Tongxin motor and hand throttle and the battery fits in my Brompton s bag pocket.I have done many thousands of miles with it and replaced the battery in 2015, however when I tried to purchase a new battery last week the website is for sale and I am unable to access the company Freedom E Bikes.The Brompton is a great riding bike but with a motor is well worth the extra cost.I live in Australia and am unable to obtain a new battery buyer beware.
Tony Firshman says
What voltage?
I use Bosch 36v 4ah batteries with my own Brompton conversion.
I have 3D printed an adapter.
The power is transferred by copper strips on the bag and bike bracket.
alfred offer says
Hi Tony,
Thanks for your reply. My battery is 39.6volt/4.3h.The battery sits in the left pocket on my Brompton s Bag and my Brompton is one of the early 6 speed from 2003 and lovingly cared for..
Alfred
Tony Firshman says
That will be a nominal 36v which normally charges to 42v. It will also be a nominal 4ah, based on 2×10 2ah cells in parallel. These are similar cells to those used by Tesla and others. The Bosch 4ah 36v cell will be an identical replacement. After my 2004 Brompton et al was stolen recently, I bought new batteries for £90 each via Ebay, with VAT receipts.
I also lost was a T bag – probably like yours. I took it as cabin baggage, but had to remove the frame (protruding handle). The replacement Borough L Roll Top bag is better. Due to floppy handle, the frame can remain. Give me your mobile and/or email address and I can supply you with my 3D printed adapter.
Abeillaud says
The review on Velospeeder needs really to be updated. In 2018, there have been major improvements and new options.
For example :
– “There’s also a three-point switch on the handlebars (on / off / wet weather mode)”. : The wet weather mode no longer exists on the new version, this is no longer necessary.
– “Undoubtedly the system’s big weakness is the lack of raw climbing assist up very steep hills,” : Two type of motor are now available, a new one with 40% more torque.
– “And as with any friction drive you may encounter problems in very wet weather “: Not really, never had a real problem even driving on muddy roads.
“There is some noise and it will be clear you’re on an electric assist bike:” With the new electronic card, this problem no longer exists.
A. Ogando says
Thank you for your sophisticated and detailed update information! By the way, there is a brand new website available now. Best regards from Cologne, Ogando
Tony Firshman says
I bought a motorised wheel and all other parts including handlebar LCD (less batteries which I have) from China. Cost was about £200. I have copper strips on the mount and and the ‘borough’ bag. My 48v 4ah Bosch batteries are in the bag.
This so so very much better (and cheaper) than the Brompton version. Also the bag is cabin baggage size.
Tony Firshman says
Whoops – 36V batteries, of course.
Siva Nachiappan says
HI Tony which company in China did you buy the wheel
Tony Firshman says
[email protected]
A. Ogando says
Updates Velogical Velospeeder / New Website 12/2021 / English Version
Bicycles Brompton E-Tuning
https://www.velogical-engineering.com/fahrraeder/brompton-tuning/?lang=en
Velospeeder / Technical Information (Sinus Controller since 2018)
https://www.velogical-engineering.com/velospeeder/technical-information/?lang=en
FAQ English
https://www.velogical-engineering.com/velospeeder/faq/?lang=en
Tony Firshman says
I had so so many issues with the ~Nano kit. The final straw was a dead motor. Their trick of power connectors on the bag mount though is sensational, and I use that with my own kit. I mount the controller under the frame, so don’t have to extend the front locking clip to allow folding.